Mixing 808s That Hit Without Destroying Your Mix

How to get 808s that punch through on any system without turning your low end into mud.

By Justin Malinow3 min read
Mixing 808s That Hit Without Destroying Your Mix

808s are deceptively simple. One sound. How hard can it be?

Very hard, apparently. I hear mixes all the time where the 808 either disappears on small speakers or turns the whole track into a muddy mess on subs.

Here's how I approach it.


The Fundamental Problem

808s live in the sub-bass range—roughly 30-60Hz. This is felt more than heard. On laptop speakers? You hear almost nothing. On a club system? It's everything.

The challenge is making the 808 work on both.


Saturation Is Your Friend

The trick is harmonics. When you saturate an 808, you add upper harmonics (60Hz, 90Hz, 120Hz, etc.) that small speakers CAN reproduce.

Your sub-bass stays intact for systems that can play it. But now there's harmonic content that translates on earbuds and laptops.

Don't overdo it—you want the 808 to still feel like a sub, not a distorted synth. Light saturation. Tube-style works well because it adds even harmonics that are more musical.


Layering: The Pro Technique

Most professional 808s you hear are actually two layers:

  1. The sub layer - Pure, clean sub-bass. 30-60Hz. No harmonics. This provides the chest-punch on big systems.

  2. The mid layer - A higher element (80-200Hz) that provides presence. Can be a separate synth, a saturated copy, or just heavy EQ.

High-pass the mid layer so it doesn't compete with the sub. Low-pass the sub layer so it's pure. Now each does its job without stepping on the other.


Sidechain: Essential but Subtle

Your kick and 808 are fighting for the same space. On modern tracks, the 808 usually ducks slightly when the kick hits.

But don't overdo it. Heavy sidechaining sounds like a pulsing effect. You want just enough to let the kick punch through—maybe 3-6dB of gain reduction, fast attack, medium release.


The Key Change Trap

If your 808 changes notes throughout the song, mixing gets harder. Lower notes have more sub energy. A pattern that sounds balanced on G might be boomy on D and thin on C.

Options:

  • Automate the 808 level per note
  • Use multiband compression to tame the low end dynamically
  • Choose a pattern that stays in a similar range

Mono Below 100Hz

Pan your 808? Don't. Sub-bass should be mono. Low frequencies with stereo information cause phase problems and sound weak on some systems.

Most modern productions have everything below 80-100Hz summed to mono. Your 808 should be centered and phase-coherent.


Reference, Reference, Reference

Pull up a reference track with 808s you love. Level-match it. A/B constantly.

You'll probably find your 808 is either too loud or not present enough on small speakers. Adjust until it sits similarly to your reference.


Quick Checklist

  • High-pass at 25-30Hz to remove sub-rumble
  • Light saturation for harmonics
  • Sidechain to kick (subtle)
  • Check on multiple systems (earbuds, car, monitors)
  • Mono below 100Hz
  • Level against a reference track

Get these right and your 808s will hit on club systems AND translate on earbuds. That's the goal.

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